What a curious comment. The first portion of your diatribe disparages all java developers, but the latter part of it suggests that you're still working in java shop (perhaps in an ops capacity?) I'm wondering what you meant by JVM 8 because no such thing exists (unless you were talking about the JDK or the JRE.)
You must have worked at some sweatshops to spout such biased vitriol.
Well, I was an English major, so I'm glad you were engaged by the "diatribe". And if you were unable to piece it together... and I kinda feel bad if you couldn't. I'm referring to Java 8 language features and OpenJDK 1.8. I get the feeling you knew that though and are being pedantic. You've succeeded though, because I responded.
Sadly you missed the part where I said, "Not all Java devs obviously". I have read great blogs by Twitter engineering and many others.
But, since you seem to have some experience in sweatshops, please explain how your current situation is different. Add something to this conversation instead of correcting my stupid generalizations.
Your comment about the "JVM update" was a non sequitur trailing from your rant, but I'm glad to know that you were indeed referring to JDK 1.8. The fact that you get excited in the event these nebulous java devs have "heard" of Clojure/Scala only comes across as patronizing (but I suspect you weaved that in masterfully and deliberately, given your degree in English.) Your anecdotal fallacy hasn't added anything valuable to this conversation (your parent comment admittedly claims the original having "stupid generalizations"). Most of the other comments here on HN are discussing specifics outlined in the article, but it's evident that you don't have anything meaningful to contribute in that area, which is a shame because it appears that you value polyglotism so one would think you could offer your "enlightened" perspective around best-practices which could help the community in a more meaningful way.
You have won at the internet. I'm sure you're a joy to be around. I haven't seen the meaningful response that you've added. You really do seem like a troll. If that's not your intention, that's cool. If it is, well, hey, happy trolling dude!
Edit* Yep, just checked your comment history, you're a troll. God why do people like you exist.....
Personal attacks are not allowed on Hacker News. Regardless of whether you think someone is trolling, a comment like this makes the thread obviously worse. Please don't.
We're always happy to help with that, but can you please email hn@ycombinator.com about it? And thank you for the polite response—I really appreciate it.
While you're reviewing these, you should probably take a look at your original post which got you in this thread of poo-flinging to begin with. It doesn't address the article at all. It just says 'grumble grumble, those Java people!'. It's content-free flame bait that produced predictable responses such as 'And those PHP people!' and 'I'm a Java person and you, Sir, are an ass'.
But this is the point. Now you've felt the need to teach a lesson... which also has nothing valuable to add. I feel like any conversation on Java or newer Java does lend itself to my point. If we can't add any personal experiences to these stories, then why do we have a comments section? I know it's not just so we can post links to other facts. And no, I'm not stuck in this thread. I'm trying to do the fair thing and remove a response to a personal attack and name-calling (which was mine). I stand by my initial statement. I work in an environment where a ton of Java devs don't understand why the pesky front end people keep asking for these RESTful JSON APIs. "Why can't we just do some JSPs and give you an XML/XHR when you need a hint of dynamic-ness?"
This is what brings on personal attacks. The attitude in which you post. If you fail to see my original point, ask for clarification. It would have caused me to edit my original and change my tone.
The point was 'if you don't want to feel embarrassed by things you post in flamethreads and have moderators berate you, don't start flamethreads', that is all.
Take a look at the top comment in the thread for a) an actual substantive criticism of the article b) a link to a much, much better survey article on the same topic.
You must have worked at some sweatshops to spout such biased vitriol.