When you have that kind of money you have 10 babysitters, nannies, assistants, cooks, cleaners, drivers etc. And you can get a day off almost whenever you want too.
I love it when they show on TV how brave some superstar is who manages to raise children while having a busy career. They never show the nannies, cooks and cleaning personnel.
Then we try to sell that story to single moms with low-paying jobs, and tell them to suck it up when they're breaking down due to the stress and unattainability of it.
Kids don't want babysitters, nannies, daycares,money, toys, rewards. They just want time with their parents. The more time you can spend with your child, the better. Hard to do in this day and age.
Yeah, but rich people can (have the option, not that they necessarily do it) have both ( babysitters, nannies, daycares, money, toys, rewards AND time with their children).
For many poor working people time with their children is a luxury -- but they can't even give them all the other stuff, sometimes not even decent food and shelter, much less an education.
yeah right. I'm sure musk thinks, hmmm today instead of working all day on a fun project I think I'll parent! You can't have it both ways. I'm sure musk sacrificed father/kid relationships for work success in a major way. It's not possible to have it all.
>yeah right. I'm sure musk thinks, hmmm today instead of working all day on a fun project I think I'll parent!
Many rich people do that all the time. If he doesn't think his kids is a "fun project" too, then that's his choice, not something born out of necessity.
>You can't have it both ways.
You can, if you have "fuck you money", which Musk has 10000 times over.
It's the poor people who work 2 shifts and barely have the money to provide for their family that can't have both time and money at the same time.
>I'm sure musk sacrificed father/kid relationships for work success in a major way. It's not possible to have it all.
First of all, nobody mandates that you SHOULD have it all. You can make your own balance and opt to sacrifice maximum work success. Musk is not a slave. If he is a "slave to work success" that's his personal choice.
There are rich people that have excellent in-person, relationships with their kids, and can shun work and meetings for their personal time, whether with kids, spouse, other interests, etc. Gates, for one, stepped down as CEO at 45 and went part-time with MS stuff at 50.
> You can, if you have "fuck you money", which Musk has 10000 times over.
You can have "fuck you money", but you can't have "fuck you time". Sure, the capitalist HN crowd will argue that money can buy you time (e.g. by having people do your chores for you, etc) but ultimately there is a finite amount of bedtime moments, meals, Sunday mornings, etc in your kid's lives. Try as you might, fuck you money won't change that.
>but ultimately there is a finite amount of bedtime moments, meals, Sunday mornings, etc in your kid's lives. Try as you might, fuck you money won't change that.
I think you've misunderstood the concept of fuck you money, at least as it relates to time.
They don't buy you more time -- they buy you the luxury to be you that decides what you do with your finite time. And bonding with your children is entirely up to you (or Musk's in this example) decision if you have those.
Besides, nobody argued that there's not a "finite amount of bedtime moments, meals, Sunday mornings, etc in your kid's life" -- just that when you are rich it's upon you (and not, e.g. your boss or financial necessities, or drudgery work like cooking, and cleaning and such) to spend more of your time with your kid during those moments.
> money buys you the luxury to be you that decides what you do with your finite time
This is an illusion. Ultimately, you have to choose what is a priority in your life. There will be moments, many of them, where you have to choose between a board meeting or making it to bedtime, or taking a business trip across the world or a weekend spent hiking with your kids.
If you choose too many of the latter, at some point your board will get sick of you, your executives will stop trusting you, etc.
If you're prioritizing the things that let you be the CEO of a company, you're necessarily deprioritizing the things that let you spend the most time with your kids.
The problem with "fuck you money" is that it also easily lets you fuck yourself.
The point of having "fuck you money" is that you have money enough that if your kids are more important to you than your company, you can tell your board to fuck off and hire someone else to run the company.
You don't have "fuck you money" if you are still dependent on being CEO to maintain the lifestyle you want. You have fuck you money when whether or not you work is down to what you want rather than what you need.
>>money buys you the luxury to be you that decides what you do with your finite time
>This is an illusion. Ultimately, you have to choose what is a priority in your life.
Notice how you just confirm the same thing I said. So, hardly an illusion.
"Ultimately, you have to choose what is a priority in your life" == "it's you that decides what you do with your finite time"
>There will be moments, many of them, where you have to choose between a board meeting or making it to bedtime, or taking a business trip across the world or a weekend spent hiking with your kids.
That's exactly what I said. Musk gets to chose.
>If you choose too many of the latter, at some point your board will get sick of you, your executives will stop trusting you, etc.
So, at worse you'll be off the board, and still left with b/millions in the bank. And only if you do it all the time.
Still, not the same kind of problem as not being able to spend time with your kids because you work all the time or you'll fall behind on rent and be homeless, etc...
>If you're prioritizing the things that let you be the CEO of a company, you're necessarily deprioritizing the things that let you spend the most time with your kids.
The whole point is that you don't HAVE to "prioritize the things that let you be the CEO of a company".
And you'll still be rich, with a home, with money to educate and feed your children etc if you DON'T.