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Exactly. Do we really want to create a society where the lenders have to do an inordinate amount of background research to determine whether you are a default risk? Bad for everyone in that case.


We already live in that society. What do you think the millions of people working in finance do, if not try to quantify risk?

Do you want to live in a society where you and your family can be sold into slavery if you fail to pay off your debts? Because that's the logical consequence of not allowing debts to be discharged from bankruptcy, regardless of your ability to pay.

Being a money-lender shouldn't be a license to print risk-free money.


There are other models other than two extremes. For example, in (at least some) European countries there is not such thing as private person going bankrupt. However, of course that that person won't be sold to slavery. Simply, if you can not repay the loan, your property will be confiscated and sold to repay it. You can dodge that by not having any property on your name, of course, and most such people do that, but that also means having no flow on your bank account (everything over a small life-sustaining minimum would be taken every month).

That is at least in theory. Since a considerable part of the economy is in the gray zone, there are ways of dodging that. Large part of the law system is corrupt, so well connected people always find a way to be untouchable. The system is also inefficient so lots of those debts exist just on paper. Basically, you can't go bankrupt as a person, and you wont be sold to slavery, but you will effectively still own the debt and the only way to not repay it is to work in the black zone outside of the system, or wait so long that the lenders write it off themselves (after a few decades or so?).


In many European nations if you start a business and fail you will never get another chance.

The USA financial system that allow for bankruptcy is part of the reason that we are an entrepreneurial nation.

Failure is part of innovation.


For example, in (at least some) European countries there is not such thing as private person going bankrupt.

In many there is, though it's more restricted in some countries than others, which leads to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bankruptcy_tourism


Ok. In this model, you keep one of your basic rights (freedom) but forever loses another (right to have any property). I'd call this a "semi-slavery" model.

At least in some "debtor's jail" systems you could get your rights back after spending some time incarcerated.


That is a kind of slavery. Plus as a lender you still have to quantify that risk, so what does it buy you?


We have 3 major companies who do the work for the lenders, giving every financially active human in our society a score of how much of a default risk they are.


Do we want to create a society where you are essentially enslaved by the money choices people made before you were born?

Rich banks losing money vs poor people being exploited for the rest of their lives.

I think I know which one I prefer.


Haha I hope this is sarcasm.




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