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That's horrible that Peloton was able to do this. Maybe there's more to the story, but it seems like the court allowed them to shut down a competitor for simply building a similar (relatively obvious) product?

In fact, the CEO of Peloton had the idea for Peloton... IN A FLYWHEEL CLASS. That's insane.



I've heard from a Flywheel customer who's been following the case closely that the discovery phase was very damning for Flywheel – blatant theft of Peloton's corporate documents, including things like proprietary operating details, internal financials, projections, & future plans, with direction & understanding of Flywheel management/investors, feeding directly into Flywheel's plans.

So it was bigger than just a patent case, and Flywheel, caught red-handed, had no choice but to settle to Peloton's satisfaction.


Peloton also engage in all manner of shady marketing, heavily astroturfing all purportedly “community” forums, and silencing criticism or negative comments.

I had one of their bikes, and sold it because the service was crap. I encourage people not to do business with this shady company.


Clicking through the Verge links it sounds like Peloton had a patent that Flywheel infringed on.

We'd need to do a lot more reading to have on opinion on that case.


These are the patents I assume:

https://patents.google.com/?inventor=john+foley&assignee=pel...

They are as absurdly simple as you would expect, so I assume Flywheel simply didn't want to/had the money to fight this. Like, here is the ultra-obscure "KETTLER World Tours" in 2018 having you race online against others on archived footage retrieved over the internet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YfhyDrp5Yg


Is there enough prior art to bust the patent? I’d be interested in donating to the EFF specially to invalidate this patent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_Busting_Project


Here's the best article I could find on it: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qjdz7v/project-magnum-fly...

I agree that Peloton had a patent. My argument isn't a legal one (clearly, legally speaking, Peloton was in the right). I just think it sucks.


I think there's a solid argument that patents are generally harmful, especially patents of software or non-revolutionary product features, so I think you can form an opinion.

If we embraced copying a little more I think our society would be better off.


A person can have an opinion on patents that isn't specific to a particular patent or claim.


It is a classic example of "on the internet" patent,

The problem is not Peloton persay, the problem is the Patent office allowing these obvious "Thing in the real world -> On the internet" patents to pass right on through




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