>I can't tell you what the Librem 5 is really like, because they haven't shipped mine yet, but the PP is very, very nice.
I guess my question is: can you use the PinePhone (or Librem 5) as a phone? Can you reliably make and receive calls? Can you reliably send/receive SMS and MMS? Does it have error recovery if for some reason you don't get a message? Does the battery last for a reasonable day (>= 16 hours)? What networks are compatible, and do they work with MVNOs and not just the big boys?
I've used SailfishOS in the past and enjoyed it—and would've continued using it, but my phone died and I bought a KaiOS burner and never updated. I've toyed with the idea of picking up a PinePhone because it's more within my budget; but I want my phone to, you know, be a phone—not (just) a miniature computer that fits in my pocket. I have a fairly high pain tolerance (Sailfish wasn't exactly polished the way I wanted), but if I can't make or receive calls or SMS/MMS, that's a serious problem whether I can run Blender on it or not.
1) You can (mostly) reliably make and receive calls
2) SMS but no MMS. IIRC, if someone sends you an MMS it will jam up the SMS app (not sure if it is/was a modem firmware or app issue or if it's been resolved yet or not)
3) Error recovery... hahahaha. Umm, no. I still see a fair number of messages re: people needing to tweak the modem due to text messaging issues.
4) Battery life is far better than it was but not as good as it needs to be. If you use the phone moderately, it should make it through the day. Heavy usage can kill it in a couple of hours.
5) Other than possibly Verizon, I think it's been confirmed working on all the major carriers and MVNOs. I only single out Verizon because IIRC they have/had a policy of needing to whitelist devices so I'm not sure if there's an issue there or not.
Basically you're asking if it's 'daily driver' ready. My opinion is not currently, but opinions vary on this point. That said, if you're a heavy Linux user with an interest in mobile you might want to pick one up... it really is a fantastic little portable Linux device.
> Basically you're asking if it's 'daily driver' ready. My opinion is not currently, but opinions vary on this point. That said, if you're a heavy Linux user with an interest in mobile you might want to pick one up... it really is a fantastic little portable Linux device.
Thanks! That's really helpful. I'm really optimistic about the device since Pine64 does other (hopefully brisk) business, too. I'm not necessarily opposed to modifying scripts and working through issues (Sailfish wasn't really working all that well on my Moto G Falcon, to be honest), but my family will get annoyed if I can't participate in group messaging.
I guess my question is: can you use the PinePhone (or Librem 5) as a phone? Can you reliably make and receive calls? Can you reliably send/receive SMS and MMS? Does it have error recovery if for some reason you don't get a message? Does the battery last for a reasonable day (>= 16 hours)? What networks are compatible, and do they work with MVNOs and not just the big boys?
I've used SailfishOS in the past and enjoyed it—and would've continued using it, but my phone died and I bought a KaiOS burner and never updated. I've toyed with the idea of picking up a PinePhone because it's more within my budget; but I want my phone to, you know, be a phone—not (just) a miniature computer that fits in my pocket. I have a fairly high pain tolerance (Sailfish wasn't exactly polished the way I wanted), but if I can't make or receive calls or SMS/MMS, that's a serious problem whether I can run Blender on it or not.