> Who would force you to change? you could buy the US iPhone version with the diamond handcuffs.
I'm not sure how up to speed you are with the current state of the discussion around this topic, but the gist of it is that if you make changes to the App Store, then Apple's work with respect to privacy, security, etc. go out the window because major apps that want to abuse these things will move to third party app stores. Apple loses the ability to collectively bargain on behalf of users.
So, making the change almost surely will result in "forcing me to change". Maybe it won't, but I don't see a point in running that experiment.
> Then good job to Apple PR and fanboys, the stories about Apple malware and viruses were burried very deep.
Yea maybe they are. My own experience - nobody has ever had a problem with their iPhone. But PCs or even Macs? Yea I've had to do work. Almost always it's downloading and installing some thing they shouldn't have.
> So why this model will not work if you sideload an app? Do you need genius to check the menus of the app so you feel secure?
If you don't like iPhone and Apple so much why not just not use the products? I don't get this desire to change things that other people are quite happy with.
Apple loses the ability to collectively bargain on behalf of users.
Without being overly smug here: Good.
Apple have been terrible stewards of the platform. Arguably better than Google, but that's a bar so low a deep-bore drilling machine couldn't clear it. The app store is overrun with scams, the approval process is nonobjective and unreliable, and prohibits entire classes of useful software on shaky moralizing grounds.
I don't want Apple to bargain on my behalf. I want apple to fuck off, get out of my way, and stop telling me what I can run on my hardware.
If you don't like iPhone and Apple so much why not just not use the products?
If Apple doesn't like the EU's rules why not just stop doing business there?
> If Apple doesn't like the EU's rules why not just stop doing business there?
What rules? These are proposals for rules, and also lawsuits. There are arguments that have merit on both sides. But yea sure, if it was me and I were Tim Cook and had unlimited authority and the E.U. made Apple open up to 3rd party App Stores I'd pull the iPhone from Europe. Bad business decision most likely, but principled at least. Instead they're likely going to just do something else about it. There's always work arounds. Closing off APIs, charging gargantuan fees to be listed on the App Store for big players like Spotify, etc.
There are plenty of companies chomping at the bit to get on the App Store top lists and happy to pay a fee to do so.
> don't want Apple to bargain on my behalf. I want apple to fuck off, get out of my way, and stop telling me what I can run on my hardware.
I think Apple platforms aren't for you then. They're highly opinionated and always have been.
> The app store is overrun with scams, the approval process is nonobjective and unreliable, and prohibits entire classes of useful software on shaky moralizing grounds.
So the solution is third party app stores that are even worse?
>Bad business decision most likely, but principled at least.
Are you trolling? Apple and principles ? They are giving Chinese customers information to the government and do bussiness with Saudi Arabia that would execute all those gay Apple executives if they could, are this principles??? Or you mean "Ferengi principles"
I said it’s what I would do and that what I would do would be out of principle. Not what Apple will do.
The E.U. Happily bows down to China all the time so if you really want to do this whole anti-China thing everybody is happily playing in the mud - Apple, and the E.U. .
>If you don't like iPhone and Apple so much why not just not use the products? I don't get this desire to change things that other people are quite happy with.
If Apple does not like EU rules for fair competition, warranties and repaiar Apple should not do bussiness there instead of breaking the laws.
People complaining about bad keyboards, bad video cards, bad batteries and even lawsuits forced Apple to not screw the users and recall bad products or offer free repair. If you like being screwed be my guest and do not use those limited"recall/repair" programs that complainers obtained (remember when Apple ass kissers would accuse people they put food int he keyboard because Apple is perfect)
Btw you have the option to buy an US version of iOS device, with the US version of the store, and never would change. you can;t say that FB will ask US people to buy an EU version of the phone so for sure on that US version Apple can continue protecting you.
I'm not sure how up to speed you are with the current state of the discussion around this topic, but the gist of it is that if you make changes to the App Store, then Apple's work with respect to privacy, security, etc. go out the window because major apps that want to abuse these things will move to third party app stores. Apple loses the ability to collectively bargain on behalf of users.
So, making the change almost surely will result in "forcing me to change". Maybe it won't, but I don't see a point in running that experiment.
> Then good job to Apple PR and fanboys, the stories about Apple malware and viruses were burried very deep.
Yea maybe they are. My own experience - nobody has ever had a problem with their iPhone. But PCs or even Macs? Yea I've had to do work. Almost always it's downloading and installing some thing they shouldn't have.
> So why this model will not work if you sideload an app? Do you need genius to check the menus of the app so you feel secure?
If you don't like iPhone and Apple so much why not just not use the products? I don't get this desire to change things that other people are quite happy with.