> Do you have any music degrees? I've got a couple.
Woopteedoo Mr. Argument-from-authority. Well, that's the snarky tone I might have if I stick to replying in a triggered-reactive state. But better for me to engage with the reasonable points and not focus on imagining you feeling defensive and me being reactive in reverse.
Yes, you are right that "Western Art Music" is too narrow, many many aspects of pop-music and jazz and so on do indeed use these same structures. And furthermore, several aspects of this sort of "theory" are decently universal.
I do still object strongly to the presentation of these ideas as if they explain music. I'm not going to prioritize getting into this in depth here. I would be happy and probably not really object if this stuff were all just labeled as Standard Patterns of 12-tone Western Music instead of "Music Theory".
P.S. Yes, I have a music degree, and I also did a bunch of grad-level stuff too and almost started a music PhD, but life went in other directions. As it stands though, I have learned more about music away from academia than in it. However, I did find some people within academia who seemed to really have broader understandings, and I was pursuing working with such folks when I was still engaged in that world.
I want to mention that I was particularly irked by seeing the same old 20th-century "music theory" on something labeled "21st Century". I don't understand why this stuff is somehow particularly for the 21st-Century Classroom.
Woopteedoo Mr. Argument-from-authority. Well, that's the snarky tone I might have if I stick to replying in a triggered-reactive state. But better for me to engage with the reasonable points and not focus on imagining you feeling defensive and me being reactive in reverse.
Yes, you are right that "Western Art Music" is too narrow, many many aspects of pop-music and jazz and so on do indeed use these same structures. And furthermore, several aspects of this sort of "theory" are decently universal.
I do still object strongly to the presentation of these ideas as if they explain music. I'm not going to prioritize getting into this in depth here. I would be happy and probably not really object if this stuff were all just labeled as Standard Patterns of 12-tone Western Music instead of "Music Theory".
P.S. Yes, I have a music degree, and I also did a bunch of grad-level stuff too and almost started a music PhD, but life went in other directions. As it stands though, I have learned more about music away from academia than in it. However, I did find some people within academia who seemed to really have broader understandings, and I was pursuing working with such folks when I was still engaged in that world.