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Sorry what does this comment mean? I genuinely don't understand (not a native speaker).

EDIT: Oh I think I get it, you want more cooperation, peace, among humans/countries etc.

Yeah, most people want it, but in today's world, it is increasingly unlikely.

On one hand, I don't like the fact that Western world emphasizes diversity and multiculturalism too much. We are too different, and forcing everyone to accept everyone is just pipe dream. At one point my values will clash with someone else's. I think fences, borders, are good. Deglobalization is good, slower economy is good. Just make sure we don't invade one another (I know, also pipe dream).

I also quite admire Xi Jinping. He is a dictator, and knows that he serves his country, an ethnic nation. He doesn't pretend to care about other ethnic minorities or other nations. He made China great. Hopefully China doesn't invade other countries, and prefer to be defensive.

In short: fences make good neighbors, let's all slow down on (forced) diversity and multiculturalism, let's all go back to our own fences, and cooperate from within the fences. We can visit our neighbors sometimes, have a good laugh, and after that we go home to our own fences.

Cooperation is overrated. I'd settle with peaceful coexistence. It is heaven on Earth.

I don't seek downvote, but I know I will be downvoted for this opinion, just make sure you squint to read the light colored comments.



Yeah you found the right word, peaceful coexistence :)

I'm maybe too dreamy, but I feel we are all prisoners on Earth, until we reach another planet.

And I believe game theory shows that prisoners are better collaborating ;)

As an entrepreneur, if I'd be running NVidia (or just investor in $NVDA), I'd be extremely annoyed that I am forbidden to sell my products to a large market, just because of political pressure.

Regarding your solutions and analysis, I don't know much about China politics other than gifs or memes that I saw on reddit, so I cannot say :D


The problem with being in the same cell is eventually one wants to smoke and one hates smoke. Everyone should just be in their own cell, and we can do whatever we want. We can still play card game and talk.

China is the only old civilization that still strive today. As a country, they are really big. It takes tremendous amount of leadership to bring China to what it is today.

Yes the memes about China are true, like the Uyghur Muslims treatment, the police state etc. But despite all of these, despite the lack of diversity, despite the lack of Western values, they still made great progress. It shows that a nation doesn't need diversity and multiculturalism to be strong.

I'm fine with diversity and multiculturalism, I just prefer the fenced version of it.

To tell the truth, I am scared of China too (and I am scared of their influence and power over my home country, I currently reside in the US). But I respect their strength.


> China is the only old civilization that still strive today.

i doubt that is actually true - the old chinese civilization is long gone. It's like saying that the american indian civilization is still here today.

> they still made great progress

they did - and to obtain that progress, they had to open up to world trade, to become part of the international community, and to cooperate.

It's proof that free market and international trade is not zero sum, and that all parties benefit.

But now that progress has been made, the chinese gov't seems to want to usurp more - both politically as well as economically. They desire the advances that their western trade partners enjoy, but don't desire the political freedom, and self-determination that would also come with such advances.

I think the US is not in a good strategic position to overcome china economically, unfortunately. The fact that the US has resorted to politically motivated bans like that is a clear sign. And china has progressed enough that i dont believe such bans will be effective at all - at most it will slow down the progress by about a couple years.


> i doubt that is actually true - the old chinese civilization is long gone. It's like saying that the american indian civilization is still here today.

Native American Indian didn't speak English, got obliterated by European settlers, their culture and their language destroyed. The American Indians have zero continuity today. They are a lost people. The Chinese was and still is the same, the Han. Despite Mongol and Japan's invasion, they still retained their culture, their buildings, their language, and their genetic make up.

> they did - and to obtain that progress, they had to open up to world trade, to become part of the international community, and to cooperate.

> It's proof that free market and international trade is not zero sum, and that all parties benefit.

I agree. Hence why they showed that a nation can become strong without forcing diversity. They just stick to their own self, their own culture, and generally absorb world's technology, research, and information. In today's free flow of information, we don't need diversity and multiculturalism.

Although, I argue that diversity and multiculturalism has zero correlation with why US is a strong nation. US is a strong nation simply because this land is abundant, rich, has a lot of river, geographically advantageous, and largely left alone when the whole world was fighting.

> But now that progress has been made, the chinese gov't seems to want to usurp more - both politically as well as economically. They desire the advances that their western trade partners enjoy, but don't desire the political freedom, and self-determination that would also come with such advances.

Yeah, I can understand why the Chinese govt want that. If I were the Chinese govt, I would think the same too. If I were an average Chinese citizen, I'd want the opposite.

> I think the US is not in a good strategic position to overcome china economically, unfortunately. The fact that the US has resorted to politically motivated bans like that is a clear sign. And china has progressed enough that i dont believe such bans will be effective at all - at most it will slow down the progress by about a couple years.

Yeah, totally agree.


Native American cultures and languages are still very much alive. Have you not heard of the Cherokee and Navajo nations, and the many others? They are definitely not a lost people. Also, not all Chinese people are Han.


You know nothing about china. I suggest reading up on the different Chinese dynasties before making uneducated statements


We’re talking about ethnic groups, not dynasties. Han are the biggest but not the only Chinese ethnic group. What did I say that was incorrect?


Compared to the Han Chinese state today, the Native Americans are in a really really really sad state.

Han Chinese is the biggest Chinese ethnic make up.


> Compared to the Han Chinese state today, the Native Americans are in a really really really sad state.

That’s not what you said.

> Han Chinese is the biggest Chinese ethnic make up.

Didn’t say they weren’t.


And your point?


There’s no point other than to correct your factually inaccurate statement.


I think you need to read that Robert Frost poem again (Mending Wall), because it doesn’t say what you think it says.


The irony of voicing such an opinion with the name immigrant heart...


Yes sir. I take advantage of coming to a generous Western nation filled with opportunity while earning what most people here could only dream.

Thank you generous Western nation. I hope my contribution, my taxes, my hard work benefits you.

One day I will go back home. I won’t be part of you anymore.

When that time comes, I hope you’ll leave us alone in our own affairs and don’t invade us or bomb us anymore.

Sincerely, A very hard working immigrant who could outwork most of your citizens, who just want to be left alone and prefer peace.


I’m glad you’re willing to take the mask off and show your true feelings. It’s really great for everybody in this forum who may have been persuaded by your hateful nativist screed to see what kind of person you truly are.


Totally. It's not like I am gonna change my thinking. If anything, the opposite.

Enjoy encountering millions of people like me in this world. The silent majority.

Often times I wonder why Westerners never really learn that they shouldn't impose their way of life to the rest of the world.

Then I look at social media, and forum like this. I understand.

They still have their superiority complex, deep down to the bone.


>They still have their superiority complex, deep down to the bone.

> Sincerely, A very hard working immigrant who could outwork most of your citizens

The irony thickens


Please don’t bomb me o mighty westerner. Just because the rest of the world doesn’t want your ways doesn’t mean you could bomb the rest of us.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/x332z...

See the evil in your people first before judging others.


Keep going, tell us all how you really feel.


Please don’t bomb me o mighty westerner. Just because the rest of the world doesn’t want your ways doesn’t mean you could bomb the rest of us.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/x332z...

See the evil in your people first before judging others.




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