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> I still stand by my association of Weird Nerds with autism, but for some reason people really do not like to call Weird Nerds autistic.

I'm sorry, what, even if they're preponderant you can't just call all of them that any more than you can collectively call all basketball players "Marfan Syndrome havers"



I qualify as a weird nerd, and I'm definitely not autistic.

I don't like to call anybody autistic because it invites paternalism or even outright discrimination. I even object to using much milder labels such as "introvert."


Yeah, this is a dumb insinuation.

The author is conflating people who are motivated internally by making great contributions to society with autism. Many of the best artists and scientists aren't autistic, and perhaps are quite the opposite: deeply emotional and socially aware. I'd argue you need a deep understanding of social value to even want to make a great contribution to society.

Also, it's not like people with autism are automatically geniuses. Anecdotally I've found autism to not really contribute to original and innovative thinking, more with excessive fixation on a subject. There is a difference.


>I'd argue you need a deep understanding of social value to even want to make a great contribution to society.

Autistics only nessecarily misunderstand social value in a superficial way. They are frequently compensating for a sort of "social blindness" with unusual strengths like pattern recognition to get insights into social situations in a more detached way through a different lens.

People also can be on a team with somebody who has a deep understanding of social value who doesn't have it themselves. Jobs/Woz comes to mind.


It seems like you're saying autistic people are not deeply emotional or socially aware, or capable of understanding social value. This is not what autism is -- it's a developmental disability that leads to impairment in social situations, not an inability to understand society and emotions.


Tell me honestly that most weird nerds are not on the spectrum and I might be able to work up enough energy to clutch my pearls at this.

I say this as a weird nerd who is definitely on the spectrum, like I suspect many HN readers are.


Allow me a bit of poetic license with the original statement and maybe it will explain my objection better.

> but for some reason people really do not like to call marathon winners "Kenyans".

Why might other marathon runners not like being lumped in with that country, given its incredible winningness at long-distance racing?


Maybe many and even most are on the spectrum, but not all are.

And even then, its a _spectrum_ meaning every person has a their own unique mix of, lets just call them quirks.

Meaning they (and you) are more than a single word like "autism". In fact in Sweden we've moved away from the "autistic diagnosis" because it's too simplistic. It's dangerous to be too caught up in "being autistic" that we hinder ourselves and others when we can do more.

Signed, a dad with autistic tendencies and a 4-year old child with may quirks that already give us quite a lot of challenges.


I am on the spectrum but I definitely know nerds (although not necessarily weird nerds) who are insanely good programmers/computer scientists (and do have that as their hyper specialized interest) who are not on the spectrum.

But the thing is, it's a spectrum.. Personally I do find it a little ridiculous because the biggest parts of autism have absolutely nothing to do with my work/interests but with social life, sensory issues, etc. And it's definitely more a struggle than a superpower (at least to me).




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